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    Jun 15th, 2009 / quote / 68.175.*.3*
    name should be added that this was created by Manfred Klein -- due to an oversight of mine, this was replaced on dafont by Jonas (the same font but with other weights and "splint" shadow:

    just discovered Klein's site for 2001 has Kleins Amazon (besides Jonas on the Fonteria-CD) so the name NEVER belonged to SWFTE any more than the font:

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    site moderator koeiekat
    Jun 17th, 2009 / quote / 83.46.*.1*
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    The magic of Philippe is that he always manages to keep me busy for hours - even when I have no time!

    For the comparison I have chosen the q and Q as with these the difference - or lack of that is clear at first sight.

    I am a bit puzzled by this. I know this font as Prawn Handwrite (WSI 1994), Amazon (SWFTE 1995), KleinsAmazon (Manfred Klein 2000) and Jonas (Manfred Klein 2003, and a Light version 2007).

    Although I could not find any firm reference to WSI's Prawn Handwrite, rumor has it that that Prawn Handwrite may originally have been an old URW font that came in the package with Windows '95. But I have not been able to find such a thing on any of my old Win95 CD's.

    We know that WSI and SWFTE did not design fonts. They just re-digitized/adapted/copied existing fonts. I know of no SWFTE font with a creation date later than 1995, when bought by Expert Software who kept selling the fonts without adding new ones - as far as I know.
    So we may assume that SWFTE's Amazon has to be from before 1996 (creation date May 8, 1995).

    Manfred Kleins' Amazon (KleinsAmazon) has a creation date of November 3, 2000.

    In the copyright section of KleinsAmazon Manfred Klein states that the Amazon is his. He wonders who SWFTE may be and says this is theft. (The thief ....missing ... the name ... missing for the rest ...) *)
    I assume that Manfred Klein's intention was to say that the name was changed by the thief, but used more than the maximum allowed characters in the copyright section.

    But this raises a question: when SWFTE stole Manfred's font, renaming it, then what was the original one by Manfred? And when was it published? And where?

    Adding it all up I figure that once upon a time there was a font named ... ? (If there is one who might know it is Philippe!) WSI made a version which is different from the rest. SWFTE made a version which is close to Jonas, but Jonas is rendered completely different. Now, is there a pre 95 version of the Jonas that has disappeared? Or did Manfred Klein also make a version of that unknown original (URW?)?
    KleinsAmazon and SWFTE's Amazon are (apart from the regular q and the Q) identical except for the metrics. So what happened? Did Manfred rename Amazon to KleinsAmazon to take back his font? And then, again, which font he made did he take back?

    Dieser Font stammt von mir: © Manfred Klein. Im Netz zum Beispiel bei Dort wird behauptet: Copyright © 1986-1995 SWFTE International, Ltd. All rights reserved. Wer immer dies sein mag?! Dies ist Diebstahl! (Der Name wurde vom Dieb .....
    site moderator koeiekat
    Jun 17th, 2009 / quote / 83.46.*.1*
    @ Alex, as SWFTE can not possibly be considered as a reliable source for fonts I suggest to replace the Amazon with KleinsAmazon (just uploaded).
    site moderator alex
    Jun 17th, 2009 / quote / 24.141.*.1*
    done. removed one and approved the other

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