The first one has already been answered here: http://www.abstractfonts.com/fonts/search/full_listing.htm?kw=miniskip
I've seen that second font so many times. It is overused and even seen at Angelfire, but I can't say I know what font it is. Anyways, heres a good look at that font: http://www.dj-designs.com/art/DJ-Designs.jpg
It's called Planet Kosmos. I'm sure this site has it somewhere... I simply don't feel like getting a link to it.:p
Ok, i have two font identifications for ya.
1.the font used to say "forum" right under the abstract fonts logo that your looking at right now.
2.the font that says "site name" in the site template preview pic.
[URL=http://www.illusivedesign.org/preview.php?id=137]Click here to view page[/URL]
thankz in advance.